Daily Kos

John McCain Says He's a Uniter, Not a Divider

Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:45:06 AM PDT

Reading coverage of the presidential race, I think perhaps I may be the one of the few remaining people on the planet that remember that George W. Bush ran for the presidency, in 2000, on a theme of being a bipartisan who would "change the tone" in Washington.

This was dutifully reported by, well, everyone. We were told that George W. Bush was terribly bipartisan as governor of Texas. Republican cronies were marched up in front of the cameras to tell us that he was great at working across the aisle, blah blah blah.

Coupled with these constant assertions of bipartisanship and CEO acumen was the campaign theme of "compassionate" conservatism: conservatism tempered with sympathy for the poor, and the sick, and the elderly, and minorities, and schoolchildren, and all those other groups of Americans that conservatism normally couldn't be bothered with (after all, they own very little stock), so all his handlers and speechwriters needed to make up a new word for Bush's supposed new brand of conservatism, to sort of cram the notion of basic human empathy and decentness into it somewhere. This, too, was roundly applauded by reporters and pundits in spite of absolutely no actual evidence that anyone anywhere meant a word of it, and considerable evidence that they did not.

The George W. Bush campaign schtick was bipartisanship and moderation, and a very, very large part of the reason he won the presidency over Al Gore was because a fawning press bought it all hook, line and sinker -- or at least dutifully reported it as such. We weren't supposed to look at his record, or the records of those he surrounded himself with, only his statements -- and we weren't supposed to look at his statements either, only the ones his handlers wanted us to look at.


Fast forward eight years later. From John McCain's speech Thursday:

If I am elected President, I will work with anyone who sincerely wants to get this country moving again. I will listen to any idea that is offered in good faith and intended to help solve our problems, not make them worse. I will seek the counsel of members of Congress from both parties in forming government policy before I ask them to support it. I will ask Democrats to serve in my administration. [...] I'm not interested in partisanship that serves no other purpose than to gain a temporary advantage over our opponents. This mindless, paralyzing rancor must come to an end.

Noble if not entirely original thoughts, and ones we have been exposed to as a central mavericky theme of his mavericky, mavericky campaign. What we are to take from John McCain, in this and a hundred other speeches, is that he's yet again a different kind of conservative, one willing to set partisanship aside and work across the aisle, one willing to temper his hard-right conservatism with compassion.

The problem, once again, is that there's very little to suggest that's anything more than rhetoric, and there's a whole lot of history suggesting it's complete bunk. Time and time again, McCain talks about bipartisanship or moderation, then goes back to vote for the hardline conservative position. Supreme Court justices? Government corruption and accountability? Corruption in Iraq? Domestic programs? The economy? Immigration? Healthcare? Tax policy? Nearly straight-party-line principles, matching to whatever the GOP has declared the "correct" position.

Even on his signature recent "mavericky" issue -- that prisoners in U.S. custody should not be tortured, because of, you know, basic freaking human decency -- his rhetoric doesn't match his votes. In his actual day job as Senator, he's carved out exception after exception to his assertion that torture is wrong, and it hardly ever gets a peep of press. A supposed avid supporter of the troops, at the moment he is trying to strip proposed benefits from American veterans, under the premise that it is nothing but a frivolous expense (unlike the rest of the war, which he has supported at every turn -- only angry that more was not done, not less.)

How often, during the Bush administration, has McCain voted against the interests of the most hardcore partisans of his party? Almost never. Even his few once-sparkling bipartisan mavericky efforts, like McCain-Feingold, are noteworthy because in practice they were always rare and have since dwindled into near nonexistence; his previous obsession with campaign finance reform is especially informative, given how (ahem) "unusual" his campaign finance decisions have been during this campaign. His position on ANWR continues so far as one noteworthy exception -- for which McCain is being well and truly hammered -- but it would be implausible to deny that the far more consistent theme of his presidential campaign has been, on issue after issue after issue, a steady migration to the positions of the hard right, even going against his own past rhetoric or, in the case of immigration reform, his very own previously proposed bill.

His advisory staff, during the campaign, has not been bipartisan in the slightest (unless you're counting petulant ex-Dem Joe Lieberman) but has instead been staffed with the most conservative, neoconservative and hard-right figures available. McCain isn't just Bushlike in his foreign policy -- he is even more explicitly hawkish. McCain once shunned the worst of the religious right: now not only has he made up, he vigorously courts them. McCain once had some modest degree of skepticism for hyperconservative tax policies; now he treats them as holy writ.


But once again, we get to hear speeches and reporting and punditry and testimonials about how this brand of lifelong hard-right conservatism is different from all the others before it, and how this lifelong Republican candidate wants to unite, not divide, and how this election really isn't like all the others, all of this is force-fed down our media-consuming gullets like we are geese being prepared for the axe. The political coverage is all so intently focused on horserace analysis and meta-analysis, endlessly discussing how issue X plays to demographic Y, or why event 3,921 is going to cost N points among voters who drink apple juice on Wednesdays, that there will be almost no moments left to look at the actual issues, or actual records, or determine how the two candidates are actually different, or even whether or not either of them are completely pulling our legs about the whole thing.

No, Republican John McCain wants to change the tone in Washington. Hard-right conservative John McCain wants to unite, not divide. McCain wants to bring the grownups back to government. McCain wants to work across the aisle, so long as it is not on any issue of foreign policy, or taxes, or the Supreme Court, or domestic spending, or social issues or war or the U.N. or environmental policy or blah-blah-freakin-blah. And we're all going to play this game yet again because that's how the game is set up. Everybody gets a turn in front of the cameras to say what the sky on their planet looks like, and then we all vote on what imaginary color would be prettiest, and then when we wake up after the election, glory be, the sky is still the same shade as always.

I do not know which is worse: the overarching political and media presumption that we Americans as a collective population are all stupid as dirt, or the possibility that we really might be.

  • ::

Tags: John McCain, George W. Bush, media, conservatism (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

Permalink | 148 comments

  •  DKos diarists say what MSM won't (20+ / 0-)

    Oh the Rec List right now"

    UNEARTHED: 2006 John McCain favors talks with Hamas
    by Jimmy Crackcorn

    167 comments (167 new)

    Who was Neville:Chamberlain?
    by Cartoon Messiah

    59 comments (59 new)

    McCain Endorser Hagee Calls For Global Ethnic Cleansing of Jews
    by Troutfishing

    51 comments (51 new)

    John McCain will end Roe v. Wade if he's president.

    by Phoenix Woman on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:46:58 AM PDT

  •  Translation: "I'm not interested in government (8+ / 0-)

    and media coverage that show that the party in power is not the Republicans.  To show that Republicans are losing power is to show that one party is stronger than the other currently, and that is partisanship.  When the Republicans have a slim majority and 24/7 coverage as the in-charge guys, that's not partisanship, that's reality.  But when Democrats are in charge, that's partisanship, because Republicans aren't getting 24/7 coverage anymore.  Give us some coverage people!"

  •  Old media won't swing this election. (18+ / 0-)

    Watch for YouTube to make the biggest difference this cycle.

    An agnostic not because I don't know if there's a God, but because I don't care.

    by filmgeek83 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:49:23 AM PDT

  •  The more he opens his mouh the better for us. He (6+ / 0-)

    did not learn from the HRC campaign.

  •  The only "Democrat" (9+ / 0-)

    McCain is interested in working with is Joe Lieberman, who said that Bush's disgusting attack on Obama yesterday was "on the mark".  Yep, these guys are real uniters.

    "There are no happy endings in the Bush Administration". - Randall L. Tobias

    by MadRuth on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:50:58 AM PDT

  •  McCain's tone is devisive and angry... Barack is (3+ / 0-)

    inexperienced and naivee!  That does not sound like a man who wants to change the "tone" in Washington or in politics!

    Unfortunately for Americans, President Bush, McCain and the Republicans prefer to speak in half-truths and/or distortions of the truth, preferring not to find pertinent answers or solutions to the issues facing us today, one example the Real Threat of Global Warming!  They think finger-pointing and speaking in a loud voice will deflect the attention away from their failing/failed policies -- that we will forget that they fooled us before (Iraq War).  

    The Republicans will promise and say anything to stay in power, although their conservative polcies do noting to help the American people in their day-to-day lives.   Gas prices are higher than ever before, as is food (they won't even support the farmers although food is a necessary element for life), we have erroding schools, bridges and roads, jobs which go overseas or job closings, billions of dollars going to a war which should have never been waged and those dollars do nothing to help the Iraqi people who are still suffering and have very little electricity, adequate sewer facilities or the use of their own oil.  We have record number of home foreclosures, medical bills which are going through the roof and thousands of people who have no health insurance at all.  

    Every year Democratic Senators and Congressman have to fight to even get a decent minimum wage raise for American workers while Republicans continually give theirselves an annual wage hike, yet it is the American people who hire them to work for them and not the corporations they bail out time and time again.  They pretend to be the Party of Family Values when they are really the party of special interest groups, corporations and greed!  They care nothing for suffering families -- college tuition has never been so high, barring thousands of young people from attaining a higher education and achieving the American dream.  Their tax code, again, benefits the wealthy and leaves out the American family.  They call themselves conservatives which is a nice way of saying they are selfish and like to conserve the wealth for themselves!  They make fun of the word "liberalism" like it is a dirty word when we all know liberal means to give amply and generously, something they want not to happen preferring to keep all the wealth and goodtimes for themselves and their corporate buddies.  

    They devise wars which only weaken the fabric of our society by shell-shocked veterans weakened physically and mentally and children who have to grow up without their fathers or mothers because they are either overseas fighting a war or have died in a war when diplomacy would have been the greater action to take.  These same veterans if they are lucky to come home have deplorable hospitals to come home to and a battle to get their benefits.  If they suffer from mental disease they are often found homeless, as we have shut down the majority of our mental hospitals accross the United States... and yet Republicans continue to fool us that they are the Party of Family Values.  They fooled us with WMD's and took us off on a path of delusion by fighting terrorism in Iraq when it was oil they were after!  Bin Laden is still at large.  We cannot believe anything they say... Let us not be fooled again, because frankly we cannot afford it!

  •  Based on Hunter's headline... (8+ / 0-)

    I was just thinking to myself...

    1. Haven't I heard this before?  And how did that turn out?

    and

    1. I can't wait for a real debate between Obama & McCain, especially if Obama can comment appropriately on a topic that McCain's touchy about.  After all, it's difficult for someone to say he's a uniter if all his body language is saying otherwise.

    "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." Dorothy Parker

    by AnnCetera on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:53:01 AM PDT

    •  I have been noticing McCain's body language and (0+ / 0-)

      he certainly does not project a positive, confident image especially when giving prepared speeches, such as he gave yesterday about his vision of our country in 2013.

      I think when he is on stage with Obama, the one with the presidential image will be quite apparent -as well as one with the most reasonable solutions to our problems. Hopefully, all those who drink apple juice on Wednesdays and the rest of the nation will be not only be watching but listening closely to each candidate and able to discern the difference between the two.

  •  McBush has a serious problem... (1+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    AnnCetera

    the more he moves towards the center the more the conservative core will sit on their hands and not vote for him....and I doubt he will pick up too many independents that are not already supporting him...

    Obama/Whoever He Chooses '08 Winning Change for America and the Democratic Party

    by dvogel001 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:53:40 AM PDT

  •  if we lose this one ... (9+ / 0-)

    There is simply no place to hide, mentally, morally, physically, politically.  If timing is truly everything ... and this time won't be like the last ... it simply can't happen.  But I don't trust the voters, and the media even less.  My sig line sums it up for me.  

    Dear Democratic Party: Win This One or Just Disband

    by Tuffie on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:54:00 AM PDT

  •  Don't Get Fooled Again (4+ / 0-)

    The Democratic Party should run ads in Red counties showing Bush lying to them about unity and bipartisanship in his 2000 campaign. Then some sequences of McCain personally voting with Bush in hyperpartisan lockstep in the Republican majority in which McCain was so senior for Bush's entire term. Then cut to McCain telling Republicans the same lies.

    Then the ad should ask Republicans "are you more bipartisan than you were 8 years ago?"

    Democrats are going to vote for Obama. The Party needs to slam home McCain's bloody partisan hands, even as Obama will probably rise above it personally in his own ads.

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:54:34 AM PDT

  •  It is not a "possibility" that we might be, (7+ / 0-)

    it is an empirical reality. We sent all our jobs overseas, dregulated everyone who wanted to screw us just so they could, launched a three trillion dollar war that would weaken our position irreparably, bitched mightily when it did, then voted once again to continue it, even as we continued to borrow more and more money to the point of self-destruction so that we could wage it at the same time as we watch American Idol on hi-definition plasma TVs from the comfort of homes that we knew we couldn't afford and would be thrown out of shortly.

    On top of that, we still think that 80% of the people in 80% of the industrial nations on earth live in mud huts and are ruled by mere propaganda, and we say things like 'You think things are bad here, you should see China!' Because we fully intend to insist despite all evidence to the contrary (that we refuse to look at) that we are by definition the nation in the world that is in the best situation no matter what.

    Yes, we are stupid. This is a stupid, stupid nation. Period. Low IQ. Low information. Low education. Low motivation. Low moral integrity. And increasingly, low importance on the world stage.

    Let the currency fall like a rock. It's about time the rest of the world gets tired of diapering us and just tells us to potty-train ourselves already or go live outside.

    -9.63, 0.00
    Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from idiotic American minds.

    by nobody at all on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:55:03 AM PDT

  •  The GOP theme will be "Divided Government Better" (5+ / 0-)

    From John Fund's column in today's WSJ:

    With John McCain at best an even bet to win the White House, Republicans may enter the fall homestretch with the prospect of losing the White House and sinking much further into minority status. It would be better if congressional Republicans finally decided to adopt a coherent message and a bold reform program for this fall's elections. But an alternative may be to emulate their 1996 success and make a direct appeal to voters to keep power divided so that Democrats once again don't have a blank check.

    Fund recognizes that the GOP has nothing to run on. He knows that the idea that the GOP will adopt some sort of "reform program" will be met with derision and will not succeeed.  So the alternative is to emphasize how "out of control" Democrats will be if they control all three branches of government.

    http://online.wsj.com/...

    He cites the 1996 Elections as an example:

    [In 1996]The Republican National Committee decided to take bold action by directly appealing to the public's fondness for divided government and fear of one-party rule. It rook out ads that featured a fortuneteller staring into a crystal ball showing scenes of Biblical devastation, plague and conflict were seen. The announcer warned what could happen if Democrats swept the elections:

    "Remember the last time Democrats ran everything? The largest tax increase in history. Government-run health care. More wasteful spending. Who wants that again? Don't let (insert local state) down. Don't let the media stop you from voting. And don't hand Bill Clinton a blank check."

    It worked. Republicans gained two seats in the Senate and lost only a handful in the House. Haley Barbour, the then chairman of the RNC and now governor of Mississippi, told me at the time that the ads had stopped the slide in the polls of several vulnerable members and helped boost voter turnout among listless Republicans.

    This is likely to be their mantra as they grow increasingly desperate.

    Who was Bush_Horror2004, anyway?

    by Dartagnan on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:56:14 AM PDT

    •  After reading your response Dartagnan (4+ / 0-)

      I got afraid, really afraid. If we're hearing this from Fund, it's where the right wing thinking is going and it is how they will try to frame it. We need to fight it with everything we've got. Having control of the WH and the Congress is our only chance to undo the worst of the garbage Bush & the Republicans have done. What a sorry mess. I think that's why so many people are spacing out and watching American idol. They sense what a terrible mess it is but feel powerless to stop it.

      •  The only difference is that this year (4+ / 0-)

        We have an awfully big arsenal of bad policy decisions to throw back in their face.  They ran the show for six years and there's just a terrible record they'd have to own up to.  We also have Iraq to hammer them.

        Since we're now really scraping the bones of their gerrymandered seats, the likelihood is that the more red the district, the more conservative will be the Democratic challenger. That's an equation that doesn't help their strategy of fearmongering against a Democratic takeover.

        Who was Bush_Horror2004, anyway?

        by Dartagnan on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:31:37 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  I can't really imagine that this would work (4+ / 0-)

      In today's context it just does not makes sense.
      Right now the dems are in control of only 1 branch and things are pretty awful. Though they did get slightly better than before 2006 when the dems had no control. so it's natural to conclude that the more power they have, the better things will get.

      Additionally, I think that many people I think would trade higher taxes for government-run health care nowadays.

      A hungry feeling came o'er me stealing...

      by AndrewOG on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:32:04 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  "Divided government" means stalemate, stagnation, (2+ / 0-)

      Recommended by:
      Pandoras Box, Dartagnan

      forfeiting any opportunity to pursue real change. It's a slogan that can appeal only to hidebound conservatives. But 80% of the country thinks the US is on the wrong track and wants change.

      Let the Republicans run on "divided government" again. This time I think it will defeat them.

  •  What, keep campain talking points? (9+ / 0-)

    I think perhaps I may be the one of the few remaining people on the planet that remember that George W. Bush ran for the presidency, in 2000, on a theme of being a bipartisan who would "change the tone" in Washington.

    I too, remember that.  I also remember:

    "If we're an arrogant nation, they'll resent us; if we're a humble nation, but strong, they'll welcome us.  And our nation stands alone right now in the world in terms of power, and that's why we've got to be humble, and yet project strength in a way that promotes freedom." Oct 12, 2000.

    Methinks the Prez oughta look up the definition of 'arrogant'.  Mebbe he's not so sure what it means.

  •  Uniter not a divider ... (1+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    bushondrugs

    and since he's a maverick-y, straight-talker, it must be true. Or, maybe once trad med gets the hero dust out of their eyes, they will actually report on this guy.

  •  We heard that shit once, we heard that shit twice (1+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    AnnCetera

    Not a third time, especially not now from a wannabee imitator.

    Republicans Suck Like A Hoover

    by BaritoneWoman on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:59:13 AM PDT

  •  He's a whatever the mood in the room is (4+ / 0-)

    at any given time or within any 10-second interval.

    PS: I especially like your diaries, Hunter. Your writing has a real voice to it, which is very difficult to achieve.

    :)

    ::::

  •  Hey MSM - keep showing his speeches (4+ / 0-)

    Every time my 8-year-old sees McSame on TV or in the paper she says "ick".

    I think there is going to be a hugely visceral disconnect between him and anyone under 40.

    He looks and sounds like someones old, confused great-grandfather.

    "It's better to have a bleeding heart than none at all." --- Robert Elisberg

    by JanF on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:01:46 AM PDT

  •  President Obama (6+ / 0-)

    Might not be the second coming, but having a decent, intelligent and competent president is going to be quite refreshing. I've completely forgotten what that feels like.

    These have been 8 long years of darkness and torment. Time to start shining a light, no?

    Every day's another chance to stick it to The Man. - dls.

    by The Raven on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:03:50 AM PDT

    •  Obama comes not a moment too soon (1+ / 0-)

      Recommended by:
      The Raven

      The ballooning of the national debt, two occupations, torture, injustice... and the corruption-- if we elect McSame can we really expect to get out of this Orwellian world?  These Straussian Republicans create their own good and evil-- our morality is nothing against it.

      It's amazing that it could be over soon... Just like that-- no more...

  •  Republicans running on bipartisanship and uniting (4+ / 0-)

    Remind me of that old peasant story. A peasant and a priest went into the milk business together. The peasant fed the cows, milked the cows and sold the milk. The priest gave his full cooperation and moral support.

    They split the proceeds 50 50. The priest got all teh profits, and the peasant paid all the expenses. Worked wonderfully.

    "Bipartisanship" means that the Repubs try to look reasonablke by making the Dems either toe a line or look ridiculous.

    People aren't going to fall for that again. God, I hope so.

    "Impeach the Cheerleader, save the world!"

    by deepfish on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:03:51 AM PDT

  •  He is neither (2+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    Phil S 33, AnnCetera

    he is a gerbil with sharp little teeth.

  •  Nice Post (5+ / 0-)

    Hunter and you nailed it. It is the same old worn playbook, John McCain is a 'new kind of Republican' a man 'not held hostage by partisan interests,' who will 'change the tone in Washington.' Isn't it amazing: Americans like Republicans so much that the GOP candidate's first order of business is to run as Not Republican.

    Read UTI, your free thought forum

    by DarkSyde on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:05:32 AM PDT

    •  2000 playbook (3+ / 0-)

      Recommended by:
      paige, jnhobbs, Four of Nine

      I think McCain studied his loss in 2000 and Bush's improbable victory so carefully that his image of how to win the WH is modeled closely on that campaign. So much of what he's done in the intervening years has been to position himself in 2008 as the man to reboot 2000. Problem for McCain is that all the stuff that has happened since 2000 nullifies everything Bush claimed he stood for then.

      •  Agree, McCain is using an outdated playbook - (1+ / 0-)

        Recommended by:
        Four of Nine

        and will use the dirty 527's to defile Obama while taking the high road. Hillary's playbook too was/is outdated. Meanwhile, I think Obama has delved further back in history and looked at several presidents from FDR to Regan and the why and how they became presidents. However, Obama knows he has to use 21st century tactics to rally the masses to his camp as well as present himself as a leader who has the skills to sucessfully guide our nation today - yet present himself as an ordinary American who was able to "live the American dream" before the policies of the last four presidents squashed the American dream.  

  •  Whose schtick? (0+ / 1-)

    Hidden by:
    kulshan

    The George W. Bush campaign schtick was bipartisanship and moderation ...

    Isn't it also Obama's?

  •  NYT this morning pats... (0+ / 0-)

    ...McCain on the back for separating himself from Bush in style.  It is a commented editorial so I asked if they took the extra minute to look at his record as a bushie lickspittle for the last six years.  He can say anything but the guarantee is four more years if this unstable codger is elected.

    McCain on bipartisanship: "I'll embarrass a Democrat any chance I get". --Phoenix Times

    by moondancing on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:07:20 AM PDT

  •  Our advantage this time... (3+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    paige, AnnCetera, stonepier

    ... is that Bush, even though he was Governor of Texas, was much more of a blank slate compared to McCain.  The Senator from Arizona never met a microphone he didn't like, and his ample public statements and Congressional record should provide ample fodder for us to all go over with a fine tooth comb.

    Just today we see his contradictory statements vis a vis Hamas.

    McCain's problem is that he always presents his arguments as the soundly reasoned way to go... and then he reverses himself and argues the opposite side with equal vigor.

    This is beyond flip-flopping.  This is almost Sybil-like multiple personality disorder.

  •  McCain's biggest problem is always going to (4+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    smintheus, paige, AnnCetera, bushondrugs

    be looking for his aide to tell him "what's his position is on this?"

    He can't remember half of what he's said-and he'll just repeat standard Rethug talking points--as he is doing here.

    Straight talk---right out of his ass.

    The White House will be The People's House--B.Obama

    by Phil S 33 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:08:28 AM PDT

  •  HA, that is sooo funny. (0+ / 0-)

    OMG not another false prophet...

  •  What can we do to change this? (1+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    AnnCetera

    Judging by the recent past, and the Rev. Wright sideshow, it takes something really obvious and grand to pierce the bubble of the media bias.

    Obama had to win NC by 20 points and close Hillary's lead in Indiana to 19k votes. For the general election, we wont have intervening events to intrude upon the media's stupor. Theyll have the entire time to spout off about what they, and only they, find interesting or important.

    So what do we do to embed the idea that Mr. Maverick's statements should be vetted just as rigourously as say... the Dem nominee's will be? How do we force them to not just hand Mr. '100 Years War' another Republican free-pass?

    •  We won't do that... (0+ / 0-)

      Some in mainstream media already have their fingers licked and held up to the wind.  I trust those people in media who are little more than well-trained sycophants will change their tack, once they realize the breeze has changed.

      (IMO, the winds of change are blowing, they just aren't blowing quite as hard in DC yet, which often prefers its own alternate reality to that which the rest of us face on a daily basis.)

      "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." Dorothy Parker

      by AnnCetera on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:33:02 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Hunter, you are my favorite writer on here. (2+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    AnnCetera, stonepier

    You're writing is insightful on the way the media drives the political discourse into absurdity. They drive the ignorant masses to vote on non-issues, expecting something to change, then when things do change or get worse we all line up and do the same things. You can not have a functional democracy without an informed electorate. It used to be the medias job to do that; they were the "watch dogs of democracy". But now our democracy has turned into an American Idol beauty contest decided on frivolous bull shit.

    Its sad really.

    In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. Douglas Adams

    by ryan81 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:09:35 AM PDT

  •  Stupid as dirt : (2+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    nobody at all, bushondrugs

    So far we've shown that we might be  -  by allowing slippery little sound bites to sway entire elections.

    "There you go again." (great example)

    And we're all going to play this game yet again because that's how the game is set up. Everybody gets a turn in front of the cameras to say what the sky on their planet looks like, and then we all vote on what imaginary color would be prettiest, and then when we wake up after the election, glory be, the sky is still the same shade as always.

    Here we go again.

    What scares me is that Barack (and Michelle) really do try to speak honestly.  And in our system, no attempt at thoughtful, authentic, honest response to a question shall go unpunished.

    "The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." W B Yeats

    by stonepier on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:10:13 AM PDT

  •  John McSame: Lobbyest Uniter (1+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    maybeeso in michigan

    Barack Obama is my favorite 3D Chess Player. Don't hate the player, Hate the game.

    by MasterHurrikane on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:12:44 AM PDT

  •  great essay (2+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    paige, jnhobbs

    I especially like the image of the foie gras public being fattened by the news media.

  •  Obama's Treasure Trove of Campaign Gold (0+ / 0-)

    has come on silver platters from Bush, McBush, and all the lobotomized lackies who are echoing Bush's ignorant and mean-spirited remarks of yesterday.

    This will be the gift that keeps on giving all the way though Election Day.

    Sweet!

  •  While our candidate might have dignity (2+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    paige, stonepier

    I think the rest of us are all angry enough not to let the dirt hide.  Looking forward to YouTube; Olberman, and whatever underground internet uprising we can muster.

    GOP=tainted dogfood.  McSame= lickspittle Bush follower
    Chain of command guy- not Presidential, and a codger to boot.

    Few of our vets are going home to throw over a disable wife, and marry money to mount a government sinecure.

  •  Who's he Uniting? (0+ / 0-)

    So far, he's only been putting efforts into uniting the wingnuts.  I'm beginning to loathe him as much as I already loathe bush & cheney.  No lie's too big, no lie's too small for John McBush to repeat them all.

  •  Once again, (0+ / 0-)

    the republicans are going to try that-"He's a uniter; not a divider crap?" We've had enough of that with bush, haven't we?

    "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction." --Blaise Pascal

    by lyvwyr101 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:19:09 AM PDT

  •  talking does not equal appeasement (0+ / 0-)

    How is just agreeing to sit down and talk with an enemy -- something Israel has done with Egypt, Syria, the Palestinians – the same as the leader of one big power  (Neville Chamberlain) trying to appease another (Hitler) power by signing away the independence  other some third party country (Czechoslovakia; Poland).  Again Israel has negotiated with enemies. That is who you negotiate with. You don’t have to negotiate with your friends.

    Also: Flip Flopper McCain ran against Romney for suggesting even a vague long-term endpoint (like his own 2013 claim yesterday).

    •  For that matter (0+ / 0-)

      Bush sat down with North Korea - a point Joe Biden made over and over yesterday. I watched him on Countdown; you could see he was barely restraining himself from using profanity again.

      Whether it was the MS-01 victory, or something else, more and more Democratic officials are MAD AS HELL and not going to take it any more.

      American foreign policy is NOT a Viagra substitute.

      by DanK Is Back on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:06:34 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  McCain is a uniter (4+ / 0-)

    like I'm an astronaut. Or a rock star.

  •  Obama Makes the Same Speeches (1+ / 0-)

    Recommended by:
    EvasDad

    I'm an ardent supporter of Barack but I think anyone that wants to get elected POTUS has to deliver the same canned 'I'll bring this government together for bipartisan playtime' speech. Obama has said the same things about his administration, should he be elected, that he would usher in a new era of government and recalibrate the way we think about politics and partisanship. I don't think either of them will change the basic structure of Washington politics. The game is too entrenched with too many levels of players on both sides who despise each other's views (if not each other personally). Either of them could build new working majorities but once those lines are drawn, it'll be business as usual. You need something more than an election to completely change Washington and dispel the bad blood built up over decades.

    Udall for Senate in '08!

    by BandarBush on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:23:38 AM PDT

    •  I hate to break it to you.. (1+ / 0-)

      Recommended by:
      elfling

      but they ALL give the same speech over and over and over and over.

      It looks ridiculous when viewed from a distance, but you have to remember that each group he speaks to is hearing it for the first time.

  •  COMPLICIT Conservatism. (3+ / 0-)

    Dudehisattva...

    "Generosity, Ethics, Patience, Effort, Concentration, and Wisdom"